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TBM 900 Crash: Rethinking Inflight Emergencies

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If there's a textbook case of an inflight emergency that most everyone agrees was handled flawlessly, it's Capt. Sully's "Miracle on the Hudson" splashdown in January 2009. It made Sullenberger and copilot Jeff Skiles instant national celebrities, and still serves as a model of the calm and collected flight crew skillfully handling an extremely difficult situation. (www.flyingmag.com) Daha Fazlası...

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bbabis
bbabis 4
The only rethinking that needs to be done is that declaring an emergency is not a hassle while NOT declaring one can be fatal. Make your choice. I have done it three times and I know many other pilots that have used this invaluable resource. Myself and the others have not had to fill out one piece of paperwork or talk to anybody. I was safe and gladly would have, but apparently all was good. If anyone truly has had a different experience, I would like to hear about it. Until then I will not hesitate to use all available resources to me and neither should anyone else who considers themselves a professional pilot. Professional is in the mind. It is not in the ratings and hours.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Seeing as I am pretty well retired now, I ain't gonna worry about it, but I was told by an ATP the other day that while he took "Priority Handling" at KJAN several years back, and they told him that and the Eword required the same paperwork. 10 minute phone call at tops. He said all the rest were Old Wives tales that went against basic pilot training. This goes along with what you said about none. Maybe it would behoove somebody here to do some digging or call an FAA office and find out for sure. According to an ex controller on another post, the move heaven & earth when the Eword is used. Altitude request changes happen all the time.
bbabis
bbabis 4
A request for a lower altitude in no way should alert ATC to act as if an emergency exists no matter how a pilot states it. "We have lost both engines and are turning back " is a little bit more self explanatory. ATC had zero to do with the TBM accident. As much as we always look to blame others for our failings, it won't work here.

At the very first sign of a pressurization problem, of which this pilot had many minutes of warning at least, put the mask on, sort it out, and this is a non event. If the mask was not an option for some reason, you have an EMERGENCY! Get down and TELL ATC what you are DOING.
bizjets101
biz jets 2
Hmmm - I remember when FlightAware forums were leading edge in the aviation news?, surprised nobody has posted about N600AE Hawker 600A that went off radar yesterday and now declared MISSING in waters off Santa Domingo?
preacher1
preacher1 1
You really can't post what hasn't made the media in some form as you have to have a URL. That said, I haven't heard anything about the hawker.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 2
Hindsight is usually 20/20. Put this event in your memory bank so you hopefully will act quickly if the need arises.
jbqwik
jbqwik 1
Controllers aren't mind readers. Lets face it, we all get into our own routine, which is the bane of mental acuity. We don't "dread" the "E" word. If you have a extra ordinary request or specific need state it, clearly and early. The system has excellent protocols and procedures for these things. Use it. Hesitation, waffling, hemming and hawing makes it difficult for everybody.
I'm not about to second guess this without being there. From the transcripts, it's hard for me to point fingers at the controller.

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