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REPORT: Pilot Error Caused Crash Killing Polish President

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(CNN) -- Pilot error was mostly to blame for a plane crash that killed Polish President Lech Kaczynski and nearly 100 others last year, the nation's investigators said Friday. (www.kmbc.com) Daha Fazlası...

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dg02141
Gene Delaney 0
I feel bad for the pilot as it seems from past reports that he was pressured into making the decisions he did.
aknorris
aknorris 0
I know, the pilot is the last line of responsibility, but the story clearly states that the Russian flight controllers repeatedly gave incorrect position information to the flight crew! I suppose if the pilot had diverted in the first place, they wouldn't have been in the position to get the faulty data from the controller, but that certainly doesn't excuse the controllers, IMHO.
dg02141
Gene Delaney 0
Agreed
Bogush
Bogush 0
If anyone here believes that is what happened you also believe there there are little green men on Mars. This plane was sabotaged the moment it left Warsaw, it was planned way before the anniversary of Katyn. It has been lie from day one - it can be compared to the asissination of JFK by Lee harvey Oslwald ( that was a consipiracy as this was to eliminated the elite of Polish Government) a Government that fought to liberate the peoples of Poland from Communism - whihc by the way still exists today - the hats have changed (PO) but the people governing Poland the likes of Tusk, Komorowoski etc are all ex-commies, past mafia members, murders.
This flight was no accident, I knew the pilot, before flying for the president he flew many times to Montreal, he was an ace and would have never ever made the mistakes purported. This was and is a crime supported by the Putin and his left hand man Tusk. Why is that the black boxes are still in the hands of the Russians ? why is that the remains of the plane are still in Smolensk ? why is that the coffins that came back to poand were all 80 kgs, whyis that some people who were on board grew from 172 centimeters to over 180 cm after the autopsy. Why is that the coffin of President Lech Kaczynski was closed shut not to be opened for Polsih examination, why, why, why - so whys so few answers and they have the audacity to blame this on the pilot - so typical of the Russians....
Bogush
Bogush 0
sorry for my English, I am just furious that this forum also has the audacity to print this garbage, it will generate alot of comments from the Polish community. The truth will come out but not in our time, maybe our grand kids will find out that indeed the PO and and Russia were sleeping together for this flight, the hugs and kisses between Tusk and Putin after the tragedy make me sick to my stomach. Ruskaja sobaka zabili naszego Prezydenta.............
Bogush
Bogush 0
In January, a Russian-led investigation concluded that the Polish crew was at fault in the crash.

Had this been an American plane, I wonder if the USA would have left all of the investigation to the Russians - I think not and rightly so. But as I wrote before this was planned many months before, the weather, how easy is it to create fog - anyone here ever been to Vietnam during the early seventies or prior ? - the plane was directed to Smolensk as it lifted from Warsaw airport , Why ? the game was being played out; everything was prepared for this crash. When it did crash if you listen to the aftermath you can hear shots being fired, and people crying out "don't shoot", why would anyone be shooting at a crash sight in the first place ?
Pilot error - no way - this was no error, planned, executed and case closed. for today - tomorrow hopefully the truth will come out !!!!
siriusloon
siriusloon 0
Just because the investigation didn't come up with the same preconceived conclusions you did doesn't make it wrong or a conspiracy. You are at least as close-minded as everyone you blame for what happened. Since you had already decided what happened and whose fault it was before the wreckage had even cooled, why did you even bother reading the report? I'm sure it was exactly what you predicted it would be.

Sometimes investigations deliver results we don't like, buyt that does not make them wrong.

I think you'll find that invoking the Kennedy assassination, Vietnam during the early 70s, the mafia, etc won't help the credibility of your rant. However, there are always people who love conspiracy theories and if you try ranting to them instead, you'll find that they won't interfere by using facts, logic, or reason.
Bogush
Bogush 0
listen twit you have not idea what you are talking about, English from your name you are the same kind that signed the Ribbentrop agreement with the Russians and Americans - allowing the Russians to take a portion of POland after the end of WWII - don't teach me anything that you yourself have not gone through. You are an idiot of the best definition
Bogush
Bogush 0
I am not ranting, do you know anything about history or are you one of those that thinks when one writes about something that is not appealing to you they simply rant.
weatherman04
weatherman04 0
@Boguslaw, the comment area is obviously open for input and you and others are welcome to share theories and conspiracies, but please refrain from calling other members names on here. They have just as much of a right to question your theories as you do questioning the official report. I posted this story because I knew it was controversial. Although I personally don’t trust the Russians, I don’t think there was some vast-Russian led conspiracy behind this crash, though I don’t believe it was pure pilot error either. If a country is worried about the safety of their leaders, they should follow the model the United States set up, using their own presidential aircraft and hand selected pilots. So many countries charter civilian aircraft, and you know the maintenance is not up to the standards of that we expect from Air Force One. Anyway,
bogush49
bogush49 0
listen twit you have not idea what you are talking about, English from your name you are the same kind that signed the Ribbentrop agreement with the Russians and Americans - allowing the Russians to take a portion of POland after the end of WWII - don't teach me anything that you yourself have not gone through. You are an idiot of the best definition
weatherman04
weatherman04 0
@Boguslaw, wow, you can copy and paste. No one will ever take your theories seriously when you take such a hostile approach. Why don't you leave your name-calling in the schoolyard and contribute to the conversation in a mature manner.
bogush49
bogush49 0
weatherman04
you are correct - it bothers me that someone who obviously has no idea what he is talking about calls my writing ranting. I am not ranting, I worked in Poland under the communist rule in aerospace, as a Canadian and flew many missions over Vietnam during the last part of the war, I have had the displeasure of learnng first hand what the commies are capable of, history has the whim of human nature to repeat itself and we learn nothing from it. The USA is now aspiring to get closer to it's once formidable enemy (USSR) the day will come when the sleeping giant will kick us right in the anal vortex and we will wonder why?
And by the way the plane was the President's, the crew, pilot and navigator had flown many hours together so to make a statement that they were not prepared albeit for this catastrophy - this statment is totally incorrect. Many did not believe that Katyn ever happened - that the Russians master minded the elimination of 30,000 of Poland's best, BUT it did, you can keep denying it but that won't change historical evidence.
If this guy who says I am ranting went to college and or university and I doubt that; he would know that in order for anyone to have a logical opinion of any topic one must read several opinions of the most learned men/women who are experts of a said subject matter. All he knows is that someone is ranting. I apologize to the rest of the readers and writers in this forum but not to him, I stand firm with my allegations as to conspiracy theory with regards to the assassination of Lech Kaczynski and 'et al' may they all RIP
bogush49
bogush49 0
weatherman04
from your last comment you and Rankin-Lowe (siriusloon)
must be distant cousins maybe even kissing cousins - enough of this - gotta go and clean my GS Maserati - everyone have a nice day !
ToddBaldwin3
ToddBaldwin3 0
Wow! What hostility. I would hate to see this forum sink to the same level as is found on many on-line news sites. Is it possible to tone down the vitriol and have a polite and respectful exchange of ideas and thoughts?
weatherman04
weatherman04 0
@Todd, That's exactly what I said earlier! It really ruins the credibility when someone goes around name-calling and typing in such a hostile tone. I think this is my first squawk to get such hostile comments, and I’ve even posted stories about the TSA!
bogush49
bogush49 0
listen gents keep your shorts on - you all sound so infantile -> wow, hostility, vitriol < - you are the guys that can't take sound opinions
mama's boyz - you wanna squawk me go ahead
airclaxon1
Paul Claxon 0
Sounds like a real A-1 Polock ! lol
Bogush
Bogush 0
Sounds like a real A-1 Polock ! lol by sweet and tender airclaxon1

name calling as above
Pilot78
Pilot78 0
Why was the Head of the State allowed to fly on an old piece junk? As if LOT ( Polish Airlines) didn't have a 767, 737 or EMB or something to put him on. And why did all the important people fly all together at once? They should have been broken up into smaller groups
Bogush
Bogush 0
the bigger question is why did not TUSK nor Komorowski (PO)fly the same plane ? again because this was a consipiracy to kill the members of the opposition (PiS), in one fatal flight all is done and look at what has happened in Poland since that infamous day - the basic democratic right of speach and organized meetings is being quashed everyday...........
ToddBaldwin3
ToddBaldwin3 0
@WEATHERMAN: My thoughts exactly. I appreciate you posting this story. I did not see it when it was released. Keep on posting, since we can't keep up with everything.
bogush49
bogush49 0
acts of terrorism will abound in Poland by the PO in the coming months, as oppressive as they were by the commies in the 1970s' and during the Solidarity Movement, mark my words
bogush49
bogush49 0
ff Rankin-Lowe
S & P downgraded US Debt to a AA+ - wow is that good news or bad ?
IS there or has there been a conspiracy to reduce the USA to a pulp in the last 20 years - is this a conspiracy or is this actually happening?
Is your Obama a real person ? where is he from, what university did he get his Law Degree, what did he ever edit as editor at Columbia ( alma mater ???) Really who is Barrack Obama - who when the "stars are stripes" is being played never puts his right hand to his heart
bogush49
bogush49 0
36 of Amreica's finest die again in Afhghanistan this morning ! what the hell is the USA doing in Afghanistan - it is a war that has been going on ad nauseum for 1000 years, they don't want democracy but the USA is forcing it upon them, WHY ?????
FlyingFirstClass
Test Pilot 0
OK, I've seen enough. Is it possible for bogush to either get back on aviation topics or just shut up?
This is not the place for the constant barrage of conspiracy and political garbage being spewed forth.
Discuss the flight, the crash, the article in question, or just go away.
bogush49
bogush49 0
helicopter was shot down - if this is not aviation ? what is Test Pilot?
you are an educated schmuck

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