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Delta Airlines DC-9 falls in the mud at KSAV

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Nobody was hurt, but there might have been a bruised ego (www.wsav.com) Daha Fazlası...

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DAL29
Brian Moody 12
My letter to the paper:

Mr. Davis,

I don't know how you could have misrepresented the reporting of this incident so badly..

It must be a very competitive news environment there in Savannah because in your rush to get the story out, you failed to do the research required to back up your story.

To quote your article, "This is the very long list of accidents News 3 found for the DC 9, the same type of plane flying Tuesday night. That dates all the way back to 1950. Of these, only 5 were planes running off or coming up short on the runway"

You claim that the DC-9 has had only five incidents of running off the runway (BTW - what do you mean by "coming up short"?)

The DC-9's maiden voyage (first flight) was in 1965 - not 1950 - (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_DC-9)

A total of 976 DC-9's were manufactured (not counting the MD-80 series of aircraft and B717 which are variants of the DC-9) and with the many hundreds of thousands of flights that the DC-9 has logged around the world - there are only 117 recorded incidents. It is and will always be one of the safest aircraft ever flown.

The DC-9 like many other aircraft like it around the world, has slid off the runway into the mud or grass many more times than the five you refer to (also, isn't it a journalistic standard to spell out any number under 10?) Most of these incursions are associated with rain or slick concrete/asphalt. A vast majority of these are unreported for three reasons. 1, No damage to the aircraft 2. no injuries 3. No emergency exit of the aircraft required. No amount of research is going to give you the exact number.

At the end of the day, the story should have been how the airline handled the incident and its customers, which according to your "exclusive" passenger video sounded very professional and organized.

If the NTSB isn't even investigating the incident, then why would you waste WSAV's time sending "multiple crews to investigate the incident"? What a waste of man hours and money.

This article looks like a 6th grader wrote.it. Your lack of knowledge has blown this way out of proportion and deflects the attention away from the stellar safety protocol the airline exhibited, which should have been the subject of your story.
klunker
Chas DeVine 1
Right on Brian.
Those that can't, write (make-up).
tew3622
Tom Williams 1
Obviously it was a slow reporting night. Wished they had DC's in 1950. You are right on Brian!

[This poster has been suspended.]

rayzeeman
Ray Zimmermann 3
Really is a stupid article. States at one point, "This is the very long list of accidents News 3 found for the DC 9, the same type of plane flying Tuesday night. That dates all the way back to 1950." Didn't know the DC-9 had been around THAT long!
AccessAir
AccessAir 3
Hello, the first DC9 flew on 1965!!!!!!!! Not in the 50s....Good grief...Someone screwed up again....The DC8 came out in the late 50s....Idiots writing articles...
And the only older DC9s that Delta still flies are the DC9-50 series and they were all built in 1975 and afterwards!!!!!!!!
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 2
Quite a difference in the two scenarios.
hardworker7
hardworker7 1
Maybe they were landing with a tail wind for noise abatement and the pilot didnt adequately adjust for this particularly w/nearly full acft. Curious to know if anti-lock was operating also.
jagerardi
jagerardi 3
Man, if it landed long, then that's a LOOOONG landing: Savannah's *short* runway (1/19) is 7000 feet, and the commercial guys don't usually use it- they get 10/29, which is 9300+ feet long.

I park my plane there, and frequently as for clearance to land long so I don't have to taxi so far to my parking spot at the foot of runway 1.

..Joe

PS: As to the poor reporting here in Savannah: we've gotten used to it, and wouldn't use the local newspaper to wrap fish in.
PhthaloType
Matt Hernandez 2
I'm surprise no one has has pointed out yet that the first photo is from a flight simulator.
mhlansdell00
Mark Lansdell 1
I never saw any photos only some passenger footage from what appears to be a cell phone. Where did you see some photos?
mhlansdell00
Mark Lansdell 2
Very confused "reporting". At one point in the article they indicate that the same aircraft was involved in 3 or 4 incidents. Incidentally, when the 'ground crew" was checking the engines and the brakes failed, why weren't the wheels chocked? Just curious. These people have no business writing a technical article about runway excursion, airport incursion, nor even missed approaches. The writer doesn't even know what questions to ask in order to write a story like this. 'The most dangerous person in the world is the one who thinks he knows...'
Lapetomane
I landed there once and the runway was very long. Not sure what happened to this one. Maybe someone tried to take a short cut . Maybe the pilot had to pee and tried to short way to the terminal. Who know . As long as everyone is safe . I blame the whole mess on Richard Anderson. He is Satan and I wish someone would drive him off the a runway .
mhlansdell00
Mark Lansdell 1
I had to re read the article several times only to confirm my belief that the closest to a flight deck the author has gotten is the curtain at first class. He alludes to .4 of an inch of rain to very little. You and I know that if it all cones down in 20 minutes or an hour you start looking for the ark. If that .4 inches of rain follows a week of drizzle it will make the grass plots along the runway and outer taxiway pretty soggy especially considering the high red clay content of Georgia soil. Additionally, after this dim bulb described a "Runway Excursion" in the lead sustenance and went on to cite incidents involving DC-9s since 1950, 10 years before they were made, of runway over runs, he went on to describe what I would call an incursion probably in error and running off the pavement while exiting the active runway.
I suspect this blood clot hates himself and has some ax to grind with the airline industry. My biggest question is where was the publisher's editor in allowing this drivel to appear in the news paper then get picked up by the air-wave media?
grahbag
grahbag 4
I know I'm restating here, but I just learned that the DC-9 was the first American jet airliner, beating the 707 and DC-8 by nearly a decade! All the news that's fit to make up! Anything for a fear of flying story, I guess...
satterwhite777
What?? Where do you get your stats?
Maxsdad53
Bob P 0
Pan Am had the first American jet service with the 707 in Oct 1958... the DC-9 didn't first fly until 1965.
MaxJones
Max Jones 2
I think he's being sarcastic, hence the "All the news that's fit to make up!"
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 0
707 was the first.
frz1197
James Branch 3
the press here is a bunch of retards. They couldnt find their ass if their lives depended on it.
SootBox
SootBox 2
Delta DC-9? A Northwest redheaded stepchild you mean...
cyclecircuit
John Donadeo 2
Easy there Simba, thas onea ma babies!
Signed the Old Red DC-9 mechanic
smoki
smoki 1
It's no longer a question posed by Simon and Garfunkle in their lyric "Where have all the flowers gone" rather a question of "Where have all the good journalists gone." To quote that fount of wisdom Charlie Brown from Peanuts: "Good Grief." This story should have been spiked by the editor before it ever had any chance or hope of seeing the light of day. Just plain garbage. I wouldn't insult the intelligence of a 6th grader over this.
hardworker7
hardworker7 1
Maybe they were landing with a tail wind for noise abatement and the crew didnt adequately adjust for this particularly since they were nearly full and perhaps a touch heavy. Curious to know if anti-skid was working.
mhlansdell00
Mark Lansdell 1
Read the article again and then again. This didn't happen on landing. That was all slight of hand in his writing. This happened when the 1950s DC-9 was taxiing off at an intersection. The pilot may have over run the intersection but not the runway. This guy can't write worth a hoot or he has an agenda. I haven't goyt the proof yet , but I think he substituted a DC-9 for a B-73 in his run up accident account. This clown needs a baby sitter.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
Crap. Spammers again
lwilmott
Larry Wilmott 1
Where's Joe Patroni when you need him?
mhlansdell00
Mark Lansdell 1
Retired in the Bahamas where it will never snow and he can entertain his grand children and their families on his 65 foot Hatteras, jus cathin cuda, mon.
xtoler
Larry Toler 1
Wow, that is a pretty pitiful article. The reporter mentioned the same airliner rolling down a hill after a maintenance run. Actually, that was a Delta 737.
julianjim
jim garrity 1
OOP'S!
brax217
I thought a "firm" landing in Hilton Head was necessary to stop the aircraft on-time due to the fact that the runway is small.
Tutus
properly piloted...
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
BTW, never having piloted a DC9 I was wondering how one "falls" into the mud? Do they have a tendency to "trip" or "stumble"???
evbutler
Ev Butler 1
The five commandments of any reporter is to answer the following:

Who, what, when, where, why, and how. Most reporters thankfully know that in order to keep a job they must snswer all of the above. News reports that leave any of the above unanswered has the story put back on their desk by the editor.

How many of the five were answered in the article? Within the past 19 hours, all of the above should have been included. Plenty of time to get some answere. No answers, no news!
tonytrap
Tony Lawlor 3
I make that six.

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