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Air New Zealand Re-Routes North American Flights So Crews Won’t Have To Overnight In LA Or San Francisco

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LOS ANGELES (CBSLA) — California’s COVID-19 situation is so bad, Air New Zealand will re-route its North American flights so their crews can overnight in Honolulu, rather than Los Angeles or San Francisco. Starting Monday, all of Air New Zealand’s cargo flight crews traveling to the United States will overnight in Honolulu. Flight crews on the airline’s passenger flights will be routed via Honolulu starting on Feb. 2. The airline says one set of crews will fly between Hawaii and California,… (losangeles.cbslocal.com) Daha Fazlası...

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mz737
mz737 6
A lot of airlines are doing the same thing. LAX to PVG has a crew swap in GUM so as not to lay over in China; ORD to PVG does the same in NRT. SFO to PVG changes crews in ICN.
andyc852
Interested to know what airlines involved. Delta does several non stops to PVG from DTW and ATL
mz737
mz737 2
UAL is doing those routings on the 777. I think the 787 is doing CTU cargo runs out of ICN as well.
I meant to say LAX-HGK and ORD-HKG have the GUM and NRT stops doing cargo ops... SFO-ICN-PVG is a pax trip on the 777.
silverhammer1
The AKL-HNL crew get a 3 day layover in HNL before doing the LAX return sectors. Then 3 days in HNL (in hotel isolation, so no fun) then back to AKL for 2 days iso.
Propwash122
Would one crew fly both legs, HNL to California and back? Can this be done within duty time limits? Or would they bring a second crew to fly the return to HNL? Presumably the crew or crews would wait on the plane in California while it is unloaded, serviced, reloaded.
andyc852
I had the same question. Looks like about 5 hour legs so a minimum of 10 flying hours plus load and unload. I would estimate (no facts just estimate) it would be 2 crews of 2 pilots. Also interested if the crews fly all sectors or if they just do the HNL-LAX/SFO sectors
KAISERAIR01
KAISER AIR 2
We go West Coast KOA and back with a crew of 3 so they could be doing that.
TiredTom
Tom Bruce 3
live in NorCal... have 6 friends in SoCal with the virus...out of control there.. very large diverse population with numerous views on the bug... airlines wise to stay out of town
GaAubie
Ken Hardy 10
There are more reasons than just the risk of CO-19 to not overnight in LA or San Fran like getting robbed if you're staying close to either of the Airports, happened to me in LA several years ago, same goes for Atlanta's airport
IAOA
IAOA 3
I was thinking the same thing.
E1craZ4life
Even without COVID, there's really no reason for anyone to ever go to California.
ed7778
or being infected by communist ideology.
matteodan
in my opinion the crews have done well to choose Honolulu as a layover base, first of all health in front of work and respect for those who work nearby, then for the crews' families and for the entire New Zealand population
WhiteKnight77
I cannot fault ANZ for making that decision. It would be too easy to catch the virus at a local hotel unless the airline were able to get a whole hotel for themselves with no outside workers, but that would never happen.
esu589
Joseph Sede 5
Staying out of LA and San Fran is ALWAYS a good idea
TiredTom
Tom Bruce 5
yes...it is... SF a sewer...
SmittySmithsonite
Just like every city run by a certain political ideology. Funny how that works. Glad I left CA 20 years ago ... although moving back to MA wasn't the smartest decision I ever made ...
Moviela
The virus is a terrible problem everywhere. It has become a tragic fact of life in California. Hospitals are full, Morgues are full, and I lay it all on our soon to be ex-governor. He has closed so much people gather in homes and create super spreader events. Even the roll out of the vaccines has been subjected to the governors norm of waste, fraud, and abuse.

ANZ is protecting their people and country, and doing so responsibly.
watkinssusan
IT IS UNDERSTANDABALE..NEW ZEALND IS ONE OF THE FEW PLACES WHERE COVID OUTBREAKS HAVE BEEN QUICLY AND SERIOUSLY TAKEN CARE OF BY SHTUTDOWNS,ETCETERA..THEY HAVE HAD REMARKABLE SUCCESS DUE TO THAT FACT..
markaharris
Mark Harris 7
Turn off your caps lock.
Imsuze56
Ian Shelby -2
learn the difference between OFF and off
and the difference between ON - on
Until you know the difference better to stay quiet unless your writing confirm that you are a clown
mbrews
mbrews 17
Doggone CAPS LOCK key stuck again, eh ? Seems to happen on 1/3 of your comments.

ON MY GUMMED-UP KEYBOARD, CAPS LOCKS STICKS EVERY SO OFTEN..

Luckily, it unsticks, stops shouting, and calms down. :)

Gee, ever notice New Zealand is an island country that's easy to isolate ?
Guess by comparison the 40 million people of Calif travel & mingle all over
TorstenHoff
There are quarantine requirements even for travel in California, but nobody does it. If you travel from Los Angeles County to neighboring Ventura County or Orange County, you’re supposed to quarantine for ten days. The fact that it is often impossible to tell when you are crossing from one county to another doesn’t help matters either.

It’s definitely far easier to enforce a quarantine on a island nation with few points of entry and robust border controls.
manutd1
Why are Irelands numbers so lousy? Another island. Serious question.
mbrews
mbrews -1
A good question. There's quite a lot of commerce by water ferry and by air. Food and essentials come from the UK and continental Europe. As far as I know, its impractical to have a meaningful quarantine of Ireland - it stops essential food
Jeraboam
Jeraboam 3
Surely this also applies to NZ which is heavily dependent on international trade by air and water.
mbrews
mbrews 2
Irelands ports are much closer to multiple destinations in England, Scotland, and France, resulting in thousands of personal trips daily. Example : Dublin Ireland to Liverpool UK is only 150 miles distance, easy to move about. Dont overlook the fact that Dublin based Ryanair remains active at reduced capacity intra-EU

By comparison, Auckland, NZ is about 1300 miles distant from nearest country Australia. Yes,there are personal trips, but fewer and classified as non-essential during a NZ quarantine
andyc852
Get a better keyboard?
Imsuze56
Ian Shelby -1
Worried about CAPS LOCK, truly infantile and pathetic.
Go figure why all NAMES in contracts are IN THE ALL CAPS
The probability is that you do not have a clue
The clue to the answer is found in the Cemetery.
Do you even know the difference between Someone and Somebody
or the difference between ON and on -- OFF and off.
Presumably, your education level does not extend that high
jbsimms
James Simms 10
No need to shout.
travistx
travistx 5
Bear in mind that Los Angeles County alone has about twice the population of the entire country of New Zealand.
andyc852
Correct. I was surprised at the LAX Co population. Approx 10 million
msetera
Ouch my EYES hurt.
ExPatHere
ExPatHere -8
Good call....Lawlessness in American cities these days.....
andyc852
Particularly our nations capital
SmittySmithsonite
Funny how constant rioting, arson, and looting is ok when perpetrated by people sharing the same ideology as the media, and the incoming administration ...

Ever wonder why that is?
wiregold
wiregold 4
The "ideology of the media" ...
The private owners of the RNC and the DNC are running both sides against each other. Meanwhile, the nation's treasury has been looted beyond compare.

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