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Search begins for new VNY FBO
Los Angeles World Airports has issued a Request for Qualifications seeking firms interested in operating as a Fixed-Base Operator (FBO) at Van Nuys Airport (VNY) in Southern California. (www.generalaviationnews.com) Daha Fazlası...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
How many FBOs does VNY need? Does LAWA feel they can make more money off of new establishments rather than expanding existing ones? I don't know and really don't care. It sounds like more boondoggling as the great state of California swirls in the toilet. Go East young man.
Peter F Hartmann Esq. said:
"One look at the traffic counts at general aviation airports says it all; traffic is now half or less what it was in the so-called "glory" days of middle-class general aviation."
The reason general aviation has withered is not because the politicians have made it miserable to fly, it was the trial lawyers that crushed general aviation. Those using the title Esq. were often pleading in Court that it was the airplane maker and their suppliers that caused the death of persons in airplanes.
Insurance companies, run by lawyers, did not take the huge payouts in stride, nor defend against them. They simply raised the premium so high the broad middle class could no longer afford to purchase an aircraft, and few could afford to rent one.
To become a private pilot today at the lowest rates it costs roughly $150/hr, with about $100 of that going into the pockets of lawyers.
I am not sure Van Nuys needs another FBO until we get the sharks out of aviation.
Personally I have been pushing California legislators to exempt manufacturers of spacecraft from lawsuits and liability that have so crippled general aviation.
"One look at the traffic counts at general aviation airports says it all; traffic is now half or less what it was in the so-called "glory" days of middle-class general aviation."
The reason general aviation has withered is not because the politicians have made it miserable to fly, it was the trial lawyers that crushed general aviation. Those using the title Esq. were often pleading in Court that it was the airplane maker and their suppliers that caused the death of persons in airplanes.
Insurance companies, run by lawyers, did not take the huge payouts in stride, nor defend against them. They simply raised the premium so high the broad middle class could no longer afford to purchase an aircraft, and few could afford to rent one.
To become a private pilot today at the lowest rates it costs roughly $150/hr, with about $100 of that going into the pockets of lawyers.
I am not sure Van Nuys needs another FBO until we get the sharks out of aviation.
Personally I have been pushing California legislators to exempt manufacturers of spacecraft from lawsuits and liability that have so crippled general aviation.
Dear Friend Ric Wernicke, being a lawyer, though in India, I will be grateful if you could elaborate on the back ground. After all laws are similar if not same every where and norms of practice do not vary widely from country to country. I mean use vs. abuse of law and legal system !
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I think I explained the situation above. In America a writ of mandate is usually only sought against government to compel behavior. For torts most often money is prayed for as compensation. The trial lawyers have greatly abused the system and used ordinary members of the public with very little information to help them weigh very complicated cases. Why do lawyers do it? As individuals they earn millions of dollars for relatively few hours of effort expended.
Abraham Lincoln said "A lawyers stock in trade is his time." I would add "but it is not worth $ 17,000.00 per hour.
I think I explained the situation above. In America a writ of mandate is usually only sought against government to compel behavior. For torts most often money is prayed for as compensation. The trial lawyers have greatly abused the system and used ordinary members of the public with very little information to help them weigh very complicated cases. Why do lawyers do it? As individuals they earn millions of dollars for relatively few hours of effort expended.
Abraham Lincoln said "A lawyers stock in trade is his time." I would add "but it is not worth $ 17,000.00 per hour.
I am humbled by your respect for my bearings. I am speechless. About Lincoln , thanX for the information. A useful one at that. A very prominent lawyer of my country said some thing similar , in one of the courts of Supreme Court of India, 'we lawyers are piece rate workers'. At that time I was present in the court but I will not dilate by telling the whole story.
Now about your remarks on fees, I am tempted to explain the basics of lawyers' fees. These may vary with place but rules of game are similar.
-->To serve the need of a client the lawyer invokes law, demanding reasonable fees.
-->To serve the greed of the client the lawyer invokes loop holes in law, demanding large fees which are bound to be disproportionate.
About $ 17,000.00, again I have some thing to explain. Firstly you have not indicated under what circumstances this pay out was made ? Thus I will respond in a very generalised manner.
1. In arbitration matters, the pay out can be as a percentage, visibly unrelated to time or labour involved.
2. In matters related to claims, similar formula may be applied.
3. In stay/injunction related matters, the stakes involved determine the fees. Irrespective of lawyers' time, outside or inside the court room.
4. In criminal matters, the bail fees are decided by the status of the person/s involved !
5. In a country like yours even to get restraint orders can demand high lawyer fees ! Depending upon personalities(celebrities) involved.
6. Divorce cases, again same formula , persons involved.
And there can be many more.
On the lighter but factual side, in Clinton-Lewinsky affair, the legal costs were so prohibitive that the two 'clients' resorted to writing books and using the royalty to pay up "lawyers' debts" ! !
Now about your remarks on fees, I am tempted to explain the basics of lawyers' fees. These may vary with place but rules of game are similar.
-->To serve the need of a client the lawyer invokes law, demanding reasonable fees.
-->To serve the greed of the client the lawyer invokes loop holes in law, demanding large fees which are bound to be disproportionate.
About $ 17,000.00, again I have some thing to explain. Firstly you have not indicated under what circumstances this pay out was made ? Thus I will respond in a very generalised manner.
1. In arbitration matters, the pay out can be as a percentage, visibly unrelated to time or labour involved.
2. In matters related to claims, similar formula may be applied.
3. In stay/injunction related matters, the stakes involved determine the fees. Irrespective of lawyers' time, outside or inside the court room.
4. In criminal matters, the bail fees are decided by the status of the person/s involved !
5. In a country like yours even to get restraint orders can demand high lawyer fees ! Depending upon personalities(celebrities) involved.
6. Divorce cases, again same formula , persons involved.
And there can be many more.
On the lighter but factual side, in Clinton-Lewinsky affair, the legal costs were so prohibitive that the two 'clients' resorted to writing books and using the royalty to pay up "lawyers' debts" ! !
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