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Air Canada Rouge to Operate Transatlantic A321 Services Once B767 Retired

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The Air Canada Group winds down its use of the Boeing 767. Air Canada Rouge was launched in 2013 using four aircraft. Two of those aircraft were 767-300s, and they were used to fly as far afield as Edinburgh, Venice, and Athens. At its peak, Air Canada Rouge was operating 25 Boeing 767-300 planes. (simpleflying.com) Daha Fazlası...

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patpylot
it says very little good about cheap fare chasing folks that the choice betweeen sardine car and cattle car is now blurred. What good words can be said about A321 long range extra aircraft except by midgets and airline accountants. Also the cynical airlines and the airbus company itself is up for castigation for making these devices of airline detention and discomfort.
AbieshanG13
Nice utilization of A321s! The flag carrier of my homeland!
jeffinsydney
jeff slack 2
Congratulations.

I will not fly on it to Europe.
If I am going 5 hours and over anywhere, it will not be on a very small single aisle flying aluminium shell.
Boeing or Airbus.

I do not want to go anywhere that badly.

I can not believe what the airlines feel is acceptable and what the cheapest dollar/euro passengers will accept; to pay the lowest fare and then complain about it.

I will scrimp on the hotel to have a Business Class seat and be treated like a human being then pay the lowest fare to be treated like cattle.
alexa320
Yuk!
No single aisle narrow body aircraft on any transoceanic flights longer than 6 hours thank you! Good for whom? The airline and bottom line? Certainly not th3 passenger customers. 787 or A350 only.
joydipsinha
Per me, A321s for journeys beyond 6 hours sounds little uncomfortable from the passengers perspective.Also considering the future variant A321XLR, I think the comfort levels definitely take a hit for long distance transatlantic journeys.
wopri
If the seat pitch is increased for long distance flights the comfort level might be acceptable. The seat width of A320s is already better than on most B787s, the ones with the 3-3-3 layout.
Highflyer1950
Remember now this the Rouge brand of Air Canada.........pack ‘em in like sardines however, the A-321 is marginally better than the A-320!
wopri
You are right, Rouge is a special kind of sardine can. So far I have been able to avoid them, but from what their passengers tell me it’s really bad.
Highflyer1950
Still miss the B757 even if it was a single aisle,
alexa320
Great aircraft! Used to fly them domestically as well as overseas.
Also the 767-200 and -300ER. But......that was the front office, lol!
Cactus732
Cactus732 2
There’s always one. Generally speaking you get more room in economy on a narrow body than a wide body. Rouge is no exception, the seat pitch on the A321 is the same as the 767 and the seat is wider.
AbieshanG13
Never flown on Air Canada Rouge, just Air Canada only, but I suppose I can believe you...
joydipsinha
I have undertaken 4 hour economy class journeys on B787-800 wide-body and on B737-900ER Narrow-body and somehow the latter was more comfortable.
alexa320
Try 7 hours plus. I bet your opinion would change considerably!
joydipsinha
Well, that I have undertaken on a B777-300 ER. When I compare that to my 4 hour journeys on B787 and B737-900ER, must say that B777 is a winner, handsdown.
alexa320
Well, surprise, surprise! I knew you’d change your mind. It’s the length of the journey that counts and the seat configuration and pitch. The devil is always in the details!
joydipsinha
Well, I do agree with you on the details part. In the end its a matter of horses for courses.
AbieshanG13
Not exactly. The A321s range is 5,950 km (approximately the distance from Toronto to London, UK), so a transoceanic flight is possible with this aircraft only via the Atlantic, but no more than 7 hours.
Highflyer1950
The A321XLR is no great performer and usually sticks to around FL330/350 when heading eastbound from Toronto and generally has no problem climbing to higher altitudes for the crossing. However, westbound out of London, it may have difficulty getting to altitudes greater than FL340 prior to the NAT system entry points at heavier weights and warmer than standard temperatures which seems to happen more and more these days? Any weather related turbulence may preclude it from altitude options due to reduced performance. Being stuck in mod turb for the crossing watching the whitecaps in your coffee is not pleasant.....lol.
michaelgamer
What’s worse than an AC 773 in cattle class? This.
wopri
Actually we don’t really know yet. As long as nobody has put their bum in a seat for an Atlantic crossing we can only assume it’ll be bad, but given the operator Air Canada Rouge’s history it may well be bad. On the other hand, Portugal’s TAP puts 30 less seats in their long range A321s compared to their regular A321s. I would at least give it a try.
Highflyer1950
Only issue now is you have to cut 3” off your legs if you are over 6’ tall to fit in the seats?
wopri
TAP was supposed to start service between Montreal and Lisbon this spring on A321 LR with the cabin adapted for longer distances and I was ready to give them a try, but this has been suspended for now.

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