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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Federal Aviation Administration gave air traffic controllers new procedures Friday as officials try to contain the fallout from an incident earlier this week in which two airliner . . . (flightaware.com) Daha Fazlası...

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preacher1
preacher1 0
What is the big deal about going into the 4th 8hr shift. That' not but 32 hrs when completed. People work night shifts all over the world. We aren't talking split shifts here.
preacher1
preacher1 0
And on top of that, LaHood made a typical bureaucrat's response. Put an extra man up there. #1, Why? and#2, how do you pay for it?
genethemarine
Gene spanos 0
Many here still don't get it....the Democratic party runs the skies.
Daley and his FAA thugs here taught us how to run a mtg - chicago style
when AA and UAL were told to come back to the table. The FAA was told to be at the mtgs - you know nonverbal threats go a long way.

The Daley/Obama/LaHood machine will tell us what we need.
Don't worry.
TTail
TTail 0
WOW!!! Something happened at the FAA in a week, usually it would take years of studying the problem, at millions of dollars in costs. this whole damn situation is rediculous!!! i think the next time this happens, the aircraft on final should divert, and leave the controller alone for his nap. LOL
metermender
Louis Romestant 0
Billions for wars and other countries, can't afford a few more controllers?
foxy1
Jeff Lee 0
The DOT/FAA response to this fiasco is strictly political, because it happened at Reagan National.

Had the same thing happened at Rattlesnake, Arizona, or Swampy, New Jersey, we would never have heard about it.
conquestman
Joe Kendrick 0
It sounds like the big question is do we need that tower open all night if there is so little traffic. Airlines land at airports with closed towers at night all over the country, why pay two controllers to do nothing when there is another possiblility of closing the tower during the slow night period.
ffdriver
Carl McLelland 0
Wayne B: It's not the shift hours, it's the 2 swings, a dayshift then two mids. The short-turnarounds mean almost NO sleep before going back to work. Lets put it this way; FAA would NEVER allow that many consecutive duty hours flying, but it's OK for their own employees!? Before the '81 strike: 2 controllers on the mid. After the strike: 1 controller. One can handle it 99% of the time. The other 1% when things go down the toilet... It gets ugly, and smelly in a Big Hurry! 'Been There, Done that... No More!' MD, FAA ATCS '72-'86
amy34685
Amy Dillon 0
4 shifts in a row??? The investigation should be about allowing that many consecutive hours, and the guy should have called out for fatigue to be replaced. A sad system...
amy34685
Amy Dillon 0
Working graveyard shift is tough. It should be rotated. People have families and responsibilities to deal with during the day, and possibly another job. Not making excuses, but one person in the tower is also just plain nutty.
ffdriver
Carl McLelland 0
This, along with being a cop, are two jobs that can be aided with computers and electronic wizardry, but the human will always be required to make the final decision. It was staffing shortages that invented PATCO back in the 60's. Almost 50 years later that problem has neither changed or been fixed. It will never be fixed. Statistically, the wrongful death lawsuit is cheaper than proper staffing. The FAA sees $$$, not lives. That's the reality of it, just get by and hope the roof caves in on someone elses watch.
foxy1
Jeff Lee 0
Carl Mc: True the FAA sees $$$, and in some years, the lack of them. It isn't a profit-making organization (like Sears or Walmart), as you imply. The agency depends entirely on congress for its $$$ and has to manage its resources (staffing, equipment, etc.) with what is doled out to it. And unions like Patco add to the problem with their "me, me, me" attitude.
ffdriver
Carl McLelland 0
When PATCO was created the "slowdowns" didn't stretch 3 mile separation to 30 miles, all they did was judiciously apply MINIMUM STANDARDS. ATC needs an FAA administrator to go before congress and say "WE NEED xxxx NUMBER OF CONTROLLERS TO DO THE JOB SAFELY AND ITS GONNA COST $$$$$". Of course being an appointed position it ain't never gonna happen cause 'that' Administrator would be replaced by a brown nose who would play the game. And yea, PATCO ultimately fragged themselves.

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