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Incident: Air Canada B788 near Frankfurt on Sep 13th 2015, cargo bay heating failure
An Air Canada Boeing 787-800, registration C-GHPU performing flight AC-85 from Tel Aviv (Israel) to Toronto,ON (Canada), was enroute at FL380 about 190nm southeast of Frankfurt/Main (Germany) when the crew received indication of a malfunction of the heating system for a cargo bay, a dog was travelling in that bay. The captain decided to divert to Frankfurt/Main (avherald.com) Daha Fazlası...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
Malfunction of heating system, does not mean that a dog in the cargo bay can die. Diverting or not on a alternate airport depends only on the MEL (minimum equipement list).
If the heating systems fails in cargo bin and the captain does not Divert the animal probably will die.... The temp in the cargo bin falls dramatically when there is no heat there.
Sorry, don't understand. Can you expand on what you are saying? Diversion is justified only if something happens to equipment on MEL?
The Captain has to respond about his behavior to his company. Diverting to an alternate airport involves an enormous cost in money and other cosequencies. The MEL (Minimum Equipment List) is the list present in each civil aircraft wich fix the minimum apparatous that have to work to beguin or continue a flight to destination. Heating malfunction does not mean no heating at all. Usually small animals are allowed to stay in the cabin, this is not allowed for big animals. As far as I know the temperature in the cargo compartment can not descend more then a few degrees below zero even though the haeting is not working because part of the air of the pax cabin is discharged in the cargo compartment. Anyway for sure the Captain had his good reasons to land in Frankfurt.
If the MEL or Company policy says divert, you divert accordingly... If the message or indication comes up as being inop weather it be an indication error or not, you proceed according as if it were. I know if a plane came back with my dead animal that was healtly when they entered, I would be incredibly upset... It is not about the money, it is about the love of my pets, and if one got hurt as the result of negligence, the someone is going to pay... Personally my Dog and my Cat is worth more than the human that is sitting beside of me.
Furthermore you mentioned how cool it could get.. A few degrees below zero... It depends on where you are flying... Even with the biggest jacket that you have ad the best winter, I would invite you to travel in an unheated compartment for 2 or 3 hours with no real room to move around.... I think you are barking up the wrong tree... You should always divert in that situation.
Furthermore you mentioned how cool it could get.. A few degrees below zero... It depends on where you are flying... Even with the biggest jacket that you have ad the best winter, I would invite you to travel in an unheated compartment for 2 or 3 hours with no real room to move around.... I think you are barking up the wrong tree... You should always divert in that situation.
I understand You sparkie624. I want to tell You one of my experiences with a B757. I had to stay on ground for 5 hs in Glasgow with a tempereture of -!5°-18°C with passengers on board and a dog in the cargo compartment. The pax cabin was conditioned, tha cargo bay no. We could be cleared to start up and take off in any moment. Actually I was concerned for the dog. Destination was Orlando (Florida). During the navigation I found 135-140 kts frontal wind at all the altitudes and, in spite of the regulations, I was forced to land in Norfolk (Virginia) military airport for refuelling. My concern was not the suarvival of the dog during the flight, but the dog survival on ground at Glasgow. Well, finally we landed in Orlando and the owner of the dog found his animal in good conditions. Consider that there are a lot of problems that a captain has to face in a flight, including the cabin crew service time. The cabin crew were icelandic strongly backed up from there unions, The flight deck crew were of another european country with a different contract of employment. In any case the dog's owner, informed about the outside tempereture, and his animal, on request, could be disembarked during the stay at Glasgow.
I don't think you are correct. Many years ago, I worked at an airline with old DC-8s, and a canine was put in the wrong (unheated) cargo bay (apparently some were heated and some not, but I don't know if that was by design or maintenance). The dog arrived frozen hard. Not a good day for anyone there.
I dont remember the systems on the DC8. You could be right. I will check. I'd have in some part the DC8 manuals.
On most of those a/c the Front was not heated and the back cargo hold was heated.