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FAA investigating after plane emergency ignored by ATC
Controllers at Denver fail to properly recognize United 5912 when it declared an emergency with smoke filling cabin. (www.9news.com) Daha Fazlası...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
CRM was instituted to coordinate the activities, communications and responsibilities within the cockpit. ATC has s imilar system. It is obvious that the pilot was hurried and a crisp MAY DAY MAY DAY MAY DAY would have gone a long way to setting everyone's head in the emergency, however the controller that stated "I know that is BS" set the tone in the tower that discounted the real emergency. It will be interesting to see how the FAA rules on this.
If all the controller had to do was piece this together he may have done just that. Again, procedures are there for a reason.
Oh and for Peter...yeah 34 years and counting as an air traffic controller, sorry only 28 years as a pilot with just over 1000 hours.
Wow these posts are all completely out pf order and makes it terribly confusing. Is it me or are others having this problem too?
Major fail, the pilot did not identify himself. There is a reason for the rules. United fifty-nine twelve is not the same as fifty-nine twelve or fife niner one two or any shortened flight number. Easy to think you have a prank call if the caller is not following the book. If you don't understand than read the handbook section on "radio communications" initial call up.
If you sat on the other side of the radio and were listening to multiple frequencies you might get the flick on why the controller needs to hear YOUR FULL CALL SIGN.
I agree some steps, training can be taken to try to keep this from happening again. But in my mind if Atc does not answer an aircraft call with that same call sign (your call sign) then get a clue, he is not communicating with you!
If you sat on the other side of the radio and were listening to multiple frequencies you might get the flick on why the controller needs to hear YOUR FULL CALL SIGN.
I agree some steps, training can be taken to try to keep this from happening again. But in my mind if Atc does not answer an aircraft call with that same call sign (your call sign) then get a clue, he is not communicating with you!
Yes, errors on both sides. Mark's quote--"But in my mind if Atc does not answer an aircraft call with that same call sign (your call sign) then get a clue, he is not communicating with you!" I hope I would have found a second to say "did you copy, Denver?"