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Malaysia Airlines enlists SITAONAIR, Aireon and FlightAware for 100% global flight tracking

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By incorporating this data, Malaysia Airlines’ aircraft operations center will receive real-time position updates of its airborne fleet globally. Aireon’s space-based ADS-B data will also resolve any existing data feed coverage gaps that remain, particularly over oceanic and remote airspace, where there is currently no surveillance. (flightaware.com) Daha Fazlası...

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bbabis
bbabis 3
This system will be a great improvement in aircraft tracking particularly in remote areas that even exist in the US. No system will ever be perfect because man made systems can always fail or be defeated by man. Malaysia Airlines brings publicity to the system for obvious reasons but I hope that in time all aircraft can cost effectively participate in the system. Being able to go directly to a lost downed aircraft can save countless lives.
simie
My understanding, this system still relies on transponder transmissions --- the only way to have a true tracking system is to have it built into the aircraft such that it cannot be defeated by merely a switch.
avihais
Martin Haisman -3
So no new avionics modifications ADS-B can be disabled and currently over SIO only one 12 year old Inmarsat satellite.
dbaker
Daniel Baker 7
The Aireon space-baesd ADS-B solution will be in production with 66 satellites next year. Even when a transponder is turned off, we can notify an aircraft operator within minutes (not hours) of the last position.
avihais
Martin Haisman 0
The aircraft operator (MAB) needs to be confident ATC is on the ball. Malaysia ATC aside from the sleeping supervisor did the right thing and call Vietnam ATC and although search was initiated late still quite correctly searched in the intended path South China sea. Lost aircraft protocol is still 30 minutes therefor at 850kmh over 260 miles that almost through radar. So same situation ABS-B off, no radio disable ACARS by the time protocols met back to SATCOM and pings. Until someone hard wires a system (Don't go boo-hoo flight recorders are) all bet are off. As they say catch a thief think like a thief.
bbabis
bbabis 4
Hard wiring changes little. Flight recorders have failed in several instances. As far as mischievous actions go, hard wiring anything that emits an electronic signal only makes turning it off a little more difficult. The easier route would be to jam it. Anything that emits an electronic signal can be jammed. I guess that's thinking like a thief.
avihais
Martin Haisman 1
It not about systems failing, flight recorders or any other avionics it about ADS going dark. Both accidents AF 447 and MH370 were in non ADS areas and MH370 transponders off. Yes they are going to be satellite live but 447 still took two years to find and MH370 a deliberate criminal act yet to be found. So we need to turn off out technical analysis and think why are we doing this. It all came out of MH370 (And 447) ICAO and IATA mandates requiring ability for tracking of aircraft. So yes you now can see where an aircraft goes dark by non transponder signal and satellites. Yes there are many and more satellites but out of those how many are geostationary over the SIO, mid Atlantic. Remember MH370 went dark within radar range and they searched in the South China Sea from the last ADS return and flight plan. Its somewhere in the Southern Indian Ocean.
bbabis
bbabis 1
Outside of some kind of water powered fuel cell that would power a pinger almost indefinitely, ocean bottom searches are extremely difficult. In 447's case they knew where it was but it was a very difficult operation to pin point it and it took two years to recover the boxes. With 370 they are only guessing where to look so the two year clock hasn't even started yet.

Off the subject of this squawk, the MH370 deliberate criminal act is just a theory. Don't cast it in stone yet. I'm of the belief that a sudden conflagration took out the crew and rendered the aircraft a ghost ship. The two links are to a good article that explains the theory and another with a very long technical analysis. The picture of the 777 cockpit in the analysis that had it happen on the ground really hits home if you think about the same thing happening in the air.

https://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalking/2016/10/20/61262/

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8d9m4c5mwpdxp3p/MH370%20Research%20V3.4.pdf?dl=0

avihais
Martin Haisman 1
Due to the coordinated turns, flight through way-points and altitude and speeds the aircraft was controlled. By who we probably will never know. I am well trained and versed in aircraft accident methodology however it was a short sharp learning curve regarding the variations in satellite (Inmarsat), Boeing SATCOM avionics and technical procedures. Throw in even more variable drift modelling and sonar searching. At the end of it all live satellite ADS-B would not have prevented the loss of 9M-MRO the first items turned off. The next thing turned off (Direction) was 9M-MRO.
bbabis
bbabis 3
I hope that technology does solve our aircraft tracking holes and that by skill or luck MH370 is solved so that it may never happen again.
Safe skies.

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